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Post by ThetaJunkie on Jun 7, 2013 12:21:36 GMT
Let's talk about a broken wing butterfly. First what is a butterfly? A butterfly is a long spread and short spread with the same widths and the same short strike. For example, lets look at a bullish butterfly in NDX. With NDX at 2950, we can buy the 2960/2970 call spread and sell the 2970/2980 call spread. The cost of this spread is .45. The maximum profit is the spread width less cost (10 - .50) or 9.55. The negative of the butterfly is that it has a small probability of success. A broken wing butterfly is a long spread with a wider short spread but the same short strike. The broken wing butterfly in this case could be buy 2960/2970 call spread and sell the 2970/2985 call spread. We collect a credit of $1.55. We eliminate the downside risk, but increase the upside risk. Our upside risk is the difference of the spread widths less the credit received. In this example it is 15-10+1.55 or 3.45. Our max profit is the long spread plus the credit or 11.55. We increase our probability of success by increasing our risk. This is still a bullish position because we want the underlying to rise to our short strike but we don't mind if the underlying falls. This position will start with a negative delta and positive theta.
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Post by wakawakawaka3 on Jun 7, 2013 16:31:18 GMT
How would someone go about choosing a middle strike for butterflies? It always seems like a crapshoot whenever I see Tom do it.
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Post by ThetaJunkie on Jun 7, 2013 16:37:23 GMT
How would someone go about choosing a middle strike for butterflies? It always seems like a crapshoot whenever I see Tom do it. Excellent question. My key is the embedded credit spread. If I was putting on a credit spread, what delta do I look for the short strike? I look between .3 and .35 on the delta column. So that will be my short strike and I'll create the wings from there. Then, I'll look at the credit received. Is that enough? Is it too much? Adjust as you need. BUT realize sometimes the trade just doesn't satisfy my criteria
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Post by ThetaJunkie on Jun 7, 2013 17:57:09 GMT
Are there any adjustments for a broken wing butterfly?There is one that is nice. Remember that there is an embedded short spread in the broken wing butterfly. That is where all your risk is located. If you close the credit spread and pay less than the credit you collected, you end up with a butterfly on for free or, even better, a credit. On May 28th I put on a broken wing butterfly in the SPX. I don't remember the price that SPX was trading but here is the trade: Bought Jun 1670 call, sell 2 1680 call, buy 1 1695 call for a $1 credit. This set the break-even at 1691. The risk in this trade was 15 wide credit spread - 10 wide debit spread - credit received: 15-10-1 = $4 As we know, the SPX dropped a LOT of points after the trade. On 6/7, Tony mentioned that they could buy back their credit spread in their AAPL broken wing butterfly. That was an 'a-ha' moment. So I looked at this SPX trade. The market had popped up after jobs report so I didn't get as good a price as I would have if I done this adjustment the day before. What did I do? Sold the Jun 1695 call and bought 1690 for a .25 debit. This effectively closed my credit spread and left on the butterfly. The important part is I still had a .75 credit (original $1 - .25), eliminated my risk to the upside and still have a butterfly on if the SPX ends up around 1680. Like Liz and Jenny say - Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
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Post by twiddletrade on Jun 7, 2013 19:24:59 GMT
WOW. thetajunkie, this was beautifully explained.
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Post by wakawakawaka3 on Jun 7, 2013 21:00:40 GMT
You're the best Thetajunkie!
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Post by ThetaJunkie on Jun 7, 2013 21:45:13 GMT
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Post by ThetaJunkie on Jun 26, 2013 20:50:53 GMT
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